Comments on: Missouri HB 1599. MARM: Your silence will not protect you http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/ The Adoptee Rights Organization Mon, 06 Jun 2016 00:40:46 +0000 hourly 1 By: maddogmarley http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/#comment-853 Mon, 06 Jun 2016 00:36:16 +0000 http://bastards.org/?p=5551#comment-853 In reply to Wondering.

It is indeed puzzling and no deformer seems willing to respond in an honest, meaningful manner. Rather, they choose to name-call and attack actual adoptee equality activists and organizations who refuse to sacrifice our rights for government favors for the selected few. The closest they get to it is to proclaim that “this is as good as we can get,” which is patently absurd since full rights have been restored in states across the country by people and organizations who refused to throw anyone under the bus.

Moreover, they take a caviler attitude toward those left behind suggesting anything from “grief counseling” to suck it up and be happy for everyone who gets theirs as a remedy. Buck up! Of course, none of these bucker-uppers can be bothered with coming back to pick up their left-behinds–but expect Bastard Nation and other rights organizations to clean up the toxic waste they left behind–in compete denial that they have created a vested third party (bparent) right to keep records sealed where none existed before. Well,denial is probably thew wrong word. They know it and don’t care. Way to go MARM!

There is also the problem of non-adoptee “leadership.” In the case of Missouri, nearly all of the leadership, and certaino the ones who’s faces were always in the news, were bparents or otherwise not adopted. The lobbyist was a bmom. Adoptees were shuffled to the back of the bus (where they stood in line to be shoved off and under). We know what is best for you. Shut up!

We certainly support allies–and have wonderful bio and adoptive parent allies– but allies are just that. They don’t lead. We have suggested several times that since MARMers (and others) know what is better for groups to which they do not belong, they should trot over to Black Lives Matter or The American Indian Movement or Land of Gazillion Adoptees and try to hijack them. Get out the popcorn!

The bottom line is that bills like the Missouri bill get passed because deformers want their name on something. They do not have the stamina nor patience pr forsight for a mattress war. Something is better than nothing. They are cowards. And politically naive. As a side note, I think it’s important that those of us who started BN were involved previously in other “movements.” For example, I come out of womens liberation and prison reform mainly (with an undergrad degree in political science) which served as a foundation for Class Bastard. That doesn’t mean that those who have never been involved in earlier political activity can’t be good activists by a long shot, only that if you’re going in to this you can’t have any notions that holding your hat in hand with a pretty smile on your face will get you anywhere.

Thanks so much for your support and taking the time to post here.

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By: Wondering http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/#comment-852 Sun, 05 Jun 2016 05:54:28 +0000 http://bastards.org/?p=5551#comment-852 As a mother who lost her child to forced adoption and knew of other forced /deceitful (told baby born dead but heard it cry) adoptions, this nasty fouling of a perfectly clean bill does not at all surprise me.

I’m thoroughly puzzled why so many who claim to be for OBC access thought silence and keeping information quiet on these bills and hearings was a good idea. Why was it a good idea to keep mothers and adoptees in the dark and off balance? Adoption agencies and facilitators weren’t kept in the dark. Who promotes that kind of thing?

So sorry adoptees, if I had my way I would give everyone of you, in every state, your original (un-redacted) birth certificate starting tomorrow.

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By: Deb http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/#comment-846 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:40:41 +0000 http://bastards.org/?p=5551#comment-846 In reply to maddogmarley.

Marley, So where have I ever been listed as a “contact” for MARM? Is my phone, address, email made available anywhere, for people to contact ME as MARM? NO, it isn’t, and it never was. Just stop with lies. You have no idea what I ever did with that group, in what capacity, or what kind of current communications I may or may not have with them, so stop speculating with my name and move on. Mention me personally again, and I will have my attorney contact you directly.

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By: maddogmarley http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/#comment-845 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 02:56:48 +0000 http://bastards.org/?p=5551#comment-845 In reply to Liz D.

Yes. National Organization for Women. A few years ago I attended NOW’s national conference in Nashville. It’s former membership director told me that.

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By: Liz D http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/#comment-844 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 21:48:30 +0000 http://bastards.org/?p=5551#comment-844 In reply to maddogmarley.

NOW as is National Organization for Women or another org?

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By: maddogmarley http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/#comment-843 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 01:18:29 +0000 http://bastards.org/?p=5551#comment-843 In reply to Liz D.

Thanks for this information, Liz. I’ve never seen such a bizarre campaign in over 40 years of legislative activity. So basically MARM was dragging people off the street.

NOW and the Christian Coalition were famous for that. Both organizations claimed huge membership by adding each and every person who contacted them about anything as a member

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By: Liz D http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/#comment-842 Sat, 23 Apr 2016 22:52:49 +0000 http://bastards.org/?p=5551#comment-842 MARM randomly throws people’s names into its leadership to make it seem like it’s more minds behind the organization. In fact it is just Heather Dodd +1. No board votes have ever happened. Example- at an adoption triad (I hate that term but the meetings are ok) meeting her friend (the plus one I mentioned) passed out name tags for the triad group. $10 a piece. Clever way to get people excited-?? Many had never heard of the group. Yet were being handed silver badges saying ‘Missouri Adoptee Rights Movement’ and their printed name. I guess that means we can all go talk to 1599’s sponsor on behalf of MARM then, huh?! Lol.
Anyway I wanted to throw that out there. I was added to their B.O.D. Private FB group page without a heads up… And wondering the whole time how I got ‘voted’ in? What purpose did I serve? Basically anyone who lives in MO and has ever met an adopted person is pretty much MARM material- and they don’t even know it.

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By: maddogmarley http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/#comment-841 Thu, 21 Apr 2016 22:06:58 +0000 http://bastards.org/?p=5551#comment-841 In reply to Deb.

Still no reply. If you are not a leader, why are you listed as a contact person for MARM?

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By: Deb http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/#comment-840 Thu, 21 Apr 2016 13:55:07 +0000 http://bastards.org/?p=5551#comment-840 In reply to Shea Grimm.

Well I haven’t shared everything about my life in the media, so you are not fully informed.

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By: Shea Grimm http://bastards.org/missouri-hb-1599-marm-your-silence-will-not-protect-you/#comment-839 Thu, 21 Apr 2016 08:51:45 +0000 http://bastards.org/?p=5551#comment-839 In reply to Deb.

Well, you’re here, on our organization’s page, so your childish directive to “go be an asshole to someone else” seems a bit misplaced.

With regard to “you don’t know me or anything about me”, that’s actually not true because you have made yourself a media and social media presence. Therefore, everything I have said about you in my reply is supported by your posts in social media and your comments to the media.

Do you not understand how all of this works? The Interner is forever.

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